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Johnny ReeRee
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Posted - 2007.10.04 02:11:00 -
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This thread is a great big  .
Stins, nothing you do will please the trolls and ******s here (hi2u Ezoran!). Just tell them to **** off and pay the dividends whenever you get around to it. Which is pretty much the exact same thing EVERY OTHER IPO HERE DOES.
Does anyone have any idea at all what Eefrit does? Ionia? Motivated Prophet?
Yeah, this thread is a big lolzers
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Johnny ReeRee
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Posted - 2007.10.08 22:30:00 -
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 Originally by: Shadarle
so he can explain to me how you guys are making less money than solo players are making with a fraction of the money you guys have.
Do you ever get tired of the epeen stroking, I'm an isk-making machine act? Jesus Christ.
It says explicitly in the prospectus that they will not answer to details about their operations, though they offer significant guidance as to the kinds of activities they undertake. Of course, after that, half the Eve community decided to gank them, so evidently adjustments had to be made.
Basically, you have no right to demand anything. All you're doing is jacking off here, and it's a pretty old act. We all get that you make a lot of isk in game. How about you give us all the full details on how you do that? In fact, I'll just keep asking you to do that. And while you're at it, why don't you pressure Ionia, Eefrit and all the rest to go completely public and explicit about the details of their operations?
Stins should tell everyone to kiss his ass.
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Johnny ReeRee
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Posted - 2007.10.10 02:26:00 -
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Edited by: Johnny ReeRee on 10/10/2007 02:32:44
Originally by: Shadarle
I like how you bring up their business plan when it suits your purposes, but you fail to care when they completely ignore their business plan. You can't say it's OK that they do things not in their business plan because of circumstances, but then say that we can't criticize them because they are following their plan. That makes no sense.
This is stupid. There's nothing inconsistent about that at all. They laid some stuff out in the business plan -- while explicitly laying out the 5-10% parameters AND clearly stating that the details of their operations were NOT open. Circumstances changed radically shortly after the business plan was published. To the extent they can follow the business plan they are, but they have to adjust to reality. You have to be stupid or intellectually dishonest to deny this. Which are you?
Originally by: Shardarle
I am not demanding anything. I am asking them pretty darn politely, compared to many other people with complaints. And what do I get, I get a snarky reply from the CEO. He obviously knows that he is making horrible profits and he doesn't have the strength of character to come out and admit that they've not been running a very efficient corp. If he at least admitted it I would be fine, but he refuses to.
This part is priceless. So if Stins steps forward, grovels before you for a bit, and admits that he sucks, then -- your epeen fully engorged and cartoon money-making supremacy established -- you'll graciously give it up and let him go his way.
Nothing else you wrote is worth replying to. They share as much as anyone and more than most, and have paid out exactly what they said they'd pay out. You're probably some business competitor tired of getting his ass kicked by ISSO and bringing it here in some kind of lame meta-game effort to damage them. Or maybe you really are this lame. I don't really care much, though your posts are kind of fun.
The ReeRee Brigade may have an opening in the industrial side of our operations. Interested?
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Johnny ReeRee
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Posted - 2007.10.11 13:11:00 -
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Edited by: Johnny ReeRee on 11/10/2007 13:13:54
Originally by: Treelox
ReeRee, I want to say that I remeber you even having said in one of the past threads, that you dont even own any ISS shares. Am I remebering that right?
That is correct. I do not own ISSO shares, and I have no interest in them in any way. I just don't like hypocrites. The obvious double-standard is fun to go after, especially when presented by such totally egotistical dolts like Shadarle. The bit about Stins needing to admit he's not as good as Shadarle was worth the price of admission.
edit: you are wrong, however, about my involvement in Market.
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Johnny ReeRee
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Posted - 2007.10.11 15:13:00 -
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Robacz completely nailed it.
I'm not sure people really grasp the consequence of game mechanics here. There are no regulatory or enforcement agencies. All these play-IPOs with their little reports amount to little more than role-playing. The bottom-line is that trust is the only basis on which IPOs in Eve can function.
The apparatus of business, these reports and whatnot, are roleplay gee-gaws. Who can actually confirm that what is in these reports is true, or that all significant information has been included? Didn't EIB have a pretty significant business-ish facade? Eefrit (who does not report) has come the closest to building an institutional mechanism of trust, which 1. has the lowest return of anything around and 2. still relies on the the trustworthiness of the directors he selected. He had a problem with one director, who wasn't even dishonest, and it impacted his business.
Therefore, hounding Stins and ISSO the way some people do, is hypocritical (since there are plenty of IPOs that share nothing whatsoever -- and calling them "bonds" is just an empty dodge), and overlooks not just the single most important factor, but the ONLY important factor. ISSO has established trust in the market, because not only did they in effect build the market, but they have paid into it for 2 years.
ProtonPower's reports were complete crap. But he is likely an honest person behind the cartoon, so if he had an IPO, I'd be tempted to invest. Ricdic strikes me as an honest person. Possibly there are a few others. That is the ONLY basis on which an investment in an Eve IPO makes sense.
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Johnny ReeRee
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Posted - 2007.10.15 12:09:00 -
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Edited by: Johnny ReeRee on 15/10/2007 12:11:10
And now Taikun chimes it! Shardarle, Taikun and Ezoran -- it's like a ReeRee Brigade homecoming! Who needs corp chat when we're all right here!
Ph34r the ReeRees!
Hey Taikun -- get any ships blown up by ISS again lately? lawlz!
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Johnny ReeRee
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Posted - 2007.10.15 21:46:00 -
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Originally by: Shadarle
Originally by: Oron
Argguing that info pages that talk about now raided outposts is not outdated, is just plain silly.
My brain now hurts.
But I'm so glad they are investing more into capital production... seeing as how that is definitely a winner for the future! Just as Lavista how awesome the capital market is going, he is trying to sell out because of the horrid profits. This spells good news for ISSO investors for the future, eh?
I'm curious. Are you truly happy with 5% profits? Do you ever expect them to go above 5%? You realize that nearly every IPO currently on the market earns above 5%, correct? I'd love an answer to each of these... so I can see just how staunch a defender of ISSO you are.
How many of them
1. Pay more than 10% -- which is the threshold you need to see additional return
2. File regular reports here on the forum
3. Manage hundreds of billions in assets
4. Have faithfully paid out to shareholders for years
5. Have received anything approximating the same level of criticism
Oh right! NONE OF THEM.
Here, let me try that again:
NONE OF THEM
Really, the Shadarle and Ezoran show has truly become muppet theatre! Fun for the whole family! It's like Cartoon Network right here and without a cable subscription!
Thanks guys!
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Johnny ReeRee
The ReeRee Brigade
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Posted - 2007.10.15 22:02:00 -
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Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd
Originally by: Johnny ReeRee
lots of the typica non-factual trolling
'nuff said.
but for the hell of stupidity -- if i said i could do 15% per week, but a guaranteed minimum of 1% per week and all i ever did was 1%; then, by your *standards*, i'd be damned good. as long as no one else was doing 15% a week. right?
don't answer it, it'll just be typical "give me attention" ****.
That's awesome! Sure, just change the numbers until THEY ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT AND NOW YOUR POINT IS PROVED!
Outstanding. Just outstanding.
Ezoran, don't ever change.
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Johnny ReeRee
The ReeRee Brigade
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Posted - 2007.10.16 12:20:00 -
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Originally by: Shadarle
I personally can earn between 7-8% with unlimited amounts of ISK. Probably closer to 10%, but I'm being conservative.
tl;dr
But this is the end of the conversation here anyway. Per the ISSO stipulations YOU WOULD ONLY BE PAYING 5% YOURSELF.
The rest of it all looked like material, so whatever.
And the trust issue applies to Fury Banker Fast Learner, whoever this noob is. If there's a single IPO likely to be an EIB-type scam, my money is on this guy. ISSO will pay -- and now they guarantee share price.
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Johnny ReeRee
The ReeRee Brigade
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Posted - 2007.10.17 18:41:00 -
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Originally by: The Mittani
Investors: I am coming to pay ISS a visit once more. The last time this occurred, they lost all their stations. I expect a similar market forecast in their near future. Now might be a good time to sell your shares.
Yet another dope who has no idea how ISSO makes money. Aren't you supposed to be smart or something? Maybe you should read the photocopies you make in the law office mailroom.
>KA-POW!<
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